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Poster: k-otic Date: Jan 8, 2009 2:26am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

I´m not quite sure about the status of these movies (most of the pd distributors do handle them as pd but i´m not really sure)

The Entertainer (1960)
Charlie Chan - Meeting at Midnight (1944)
Only One Night (En enda natt) (1939)
Spy in Black (1939)
The Tell Tale Heart (1962)
Anna Karenina (1948)
Communion aka Alice Sweet Alice (1976)
The Limping Man (1953)
Tomorrow at Seven (1933)
Rene Clair's 'And Then There Were None' (1945)
Danger Trails (1935)
Rough Rider of Cheyenne (1945)
Oregon Trail (1945)
Santa Fe Saddlemates (1945)
The Trial (1963)

any infomation on those titles?

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Jan 8, 2009 4:56am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

The Entertainer (1960)
Movie wasn't renewed but the Play was. Also, as a film of UK origin, GATT/URAA may be applicable.

Charlie Chan - Meeting at Midnight (1944)
This film was originally released in 1944 as "Black Magic" It was registered for copyright under that title. The Registration no was LP12737. However, that reg no was given to an episode of "The Restless Gun" in 1953. Black Magic has been released by a number of PD distributors. However, Alpha Video's DVD has been discontinued.

Only One Night (En enda natt) (1939)
Valid GATT resoration PA0000973217 (2000)

Spy in Black (1939)
No GATT restoration has ever been filed. May not be eligible for restoration due to copyright status in UK at URAA enactment.

The Tell Tale Heart (1962)
May have been originally released in the US and thus is not eligible for GATT restoration. Hard to confirm.

Anna Karenina (1948)
GATT Restoration PA0001201912 (2003)

Communion aka Alice Sweet Alice (1976)
AKA Holy Terror. Was released without a notice in 1977. Was later reg'd for copyright in 1982 (PA0000207022). This makes a note of previous reg of screenplay in 1975 (DU93716). Film is probably PD. Gunslinger Films steadfastly defends the copyright because this is their only property. See their ebay Verified Rights Owner page here.

The Limping Man (1953)
The movie wasn't renewed. It is not eligible for GATT restoration because it showed in USA with 30 days of showing in the UK.

Tomorrow at Seven (1933)
Reg's in 1933 (LP3956). Not renewed. PD.

Rene Clair's 'And Then There Were None' (1945)
This is one of the 11 titles were the Popkins sold 'all rights' to Wade Williams. Those movies were "And Then There Were None", "Champagne for Caesar", "DOA", "Impact", "My Dear Secretary", "Quicksand", "Second Woman", "The Big Wheel", "The Thief" and "The Well". Only Champagne, Thief and Well were renewed correctly. Others were renewed incorrectly like:
DOA;a feature photoplay. By Cardinal Pictures, Inc.
Type of Work: Cancelled Registration
Cancelled Registration Number: RE0000005723
Registration canceled--in notice 1949, too late for renewal registration.
Title: DOA;a feature photoplay. By Cardinal Pictures, Inc.
Variant title: DOA
Names: Cardinal Pictures, Inc.

Danger Trails (1935)
Renewed Republic Pictures (1958)

Rough Rider of Cheyenne (1945)
Renewed by Republic R548975 (1973)

Oregon Trail (1945)
Renewed by Republic R548953 (1973)

Santa Fe Saddlemates (1945)
Renewed by Republic R531032 (1973)

The Trial (1963)
Was registered PAu000581731 in 1984. Wasn't renewed but is could have GATT restoration.

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Poster: k-otic Date: Jan 8, 2009 9:25am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

Thanks for your quick and detailed response

so you say ....

Charlie Chan - Meeting at Midnight (1944)... most likely pd
The Tell Tale Heart (1962).................. most likely pd
Communion aka Alice Sweet Alice (1976)...... pd
Tomorrow at Seven (1933).................... pd
The Limping Man (1953)...................... pd

i do like to upload "The Big Wheel" aswell
And Then There Were None (1945)............. pd like d.o.a?
The Big Wheel (1949)........................ pd like d.o.a?

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Poster: Blank Pictures Date: Jan 16, 2009 5:25am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

I would be concerned about Tell-Tale Heart.
Copyright (in the UK and, so it would seem, in the US) belongs to The Kruger Organisation (see Library of Congress for US registration document).
It would appear that only 'questionable' PD labels like Mill Creek Entertainment are selling The Tell-Tale Heart.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Jan 16, 2009 6:53am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

So, 'And Then There Were None' and 'The Trial' are probably copyright-free?

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Jan 16, 2009 8:19am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

I would say that "The Trial" is a safe bet for a GATT restoration.

But "And Then There Were None" is public domain.

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2009-01-16 16:19:28

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Jan 16, 2009 8:56am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

Cool! Thanks!

By the way, do you know of any Warner Oland or Sydney Toler Charlie Chan movies that are in the public domain other than 'Meeting at Midnight'?


This post was modified by billbarstad on 2009-01-16 16:56:00